Is Vic Franqui From Bloggerunleashed.com A Scammer? Part 2
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I was writing the reply to the comment left by "what is the iq of a monkey" aka Blah blah(on my blog) from part 1 but it was going to be longer than I expected. So, I decided make another post.
Here is the original comment from part 1:
It is me who made the comment that you are discussing now. You haven’t heard about me but I earn a living online. Now, let’s talk a little bit about what I said.
First of all, I was a reader of Blogger Unleashed, but not anymore. I made a few friends there, with whom I still keep in touch, and that’s the only thing why I am grateful to BU. The funny thing is that all of the friends that I made there don’t visit BU anymore - a coincidence? I think not.
Before I go explaining some of the points I made, maybe you should hear point #13: Signing up for Pepperjam Network under Vic’s link in order to make him some money just to be called a cocksucker for about 100 times in a 4 minute video later on. I guess that was a thank you gesture. Anyway…
Having reasonable conversations with Vic on his blog is impossible. If you dare contradict him and make a valid point, he’s gonna delete your comments and “Askimet your ass”, if I may quote the grand master. That says a lot about his character.
I am not going to go through the details of my 12 points again. It is a matter of perspective, and of how much you are willing to believe his bullshit. Yes, I was a reader of BU and I must admit you get brainwashed pretty easily over there, but people who really know what they are doing online pretty soon realize the bullshit (like I did). I can tell you now that I know more SEO than Vic ever will, and I worked in important Internet Marketing companies, which made millions. So I know what I am talking about.
I am not a scammer and I am not trying to promote anything. I am just making my point and iterating my opinion about someone – as Vic so abundantly does so himself.
For BU followers, one thing: when you are able to take down the veil in front of your eyes, you are going to realize that his blog serves only one purpose: to make as many affiliate sales as possible by calling other people in the niche scammers. You will find much better info in other places, like Griz and Court, whose sites are very good indeed.
After all, we all know SEO Elite is crap and has a limited capacity. But it has a fat commission. As for BANS, you can get a free WordPress plugin that will list eBay auctions on your website, while having the versatility of WordPress at your disposal. Submitting the same article to hundreds of directories? Haha. If you are lucky, you will get 5 links counted because Google will filter out the duplicate pages. Those who actually did it, know what I am talking about. I will not try to argue with people who are Vic fans, because it’s useless. But I personally can smell crap from a mile away.Have a good day.
Here is my reply:
I will go with the supposition that your are what is the iq of a monkey and here Blah blah.
The style of BU is not for everyone. In your case, it's not anymore.
Point 13: Show me a MMO blogger that don't used that method to get passive income. I don't mind using Vic's Pepperjam affiliate code because it did not cost me a cent. But I won't buy something if I can get a better deal somewhere else. I like to save money too. 
I don't know if Vic use Askimet that much. I too will use Askimet(last resort) when it's spammy or the person is promoting too much a "suspicious tool" for example. My blog is small so I don't have much comments except for the "normal" spam. But, Vic does answer most questions in comments unlike many A-list bloggers. They might have 100s of comments and no comment from the blogger. That does not mean the A-list blogger has 100s of questions to answer.
"brainwash": Like I said in the other comments, readers need more than one source of information. It also depends on the online goal of that person: Be read, make money or both.
"bullshit","smell crap": But how long were you a reader before stopping reading/watching BU? If you knew more than Vic about Internet Marketing/SEO, why were you reading him in the first place? Is it because he was the "new thing" and you were hoping to learn something new in those fields? It's easy to criticize someone but you must be able to back it up. Why not write a blog to share your knowledge about Internet Marketing/SEO? Anyway, those are valid questions but will you answer them?
Yes, I agree that Griz and Court have given good/much information on their blogs.
You say that SEO Elite is crap. What do you use? What is the cost and what is the commission on both(cost/commission)? Or is it free?
BANS vs free eBay plugin: First, what is that plugin? How easy/versatile is it to use compare to BANS? Vic recommend BANS because it is simpler for most readers. What about the resource that WordPress put on a server vs BANS? Have you done test? Remember that it's 100s of BANs one one server with Vic's method.
Vic mentioned(video) recently that articles directories are less "hot". Who knows how Google will count them but "big G" know about them and I'm sure they don't calculate them the same way has someone who used an article on their blog or RSS full feed stealer's. Personally, I don't use article directories at this time. Maybe in my second round of link building but I'm not a good writer. :p I can say that my best BANS only used one Squidoo page. That was my article.
Yes, I'm a fan of Vic's method with BANS because it's starting to work for me.
"I will not try to argue with people who are Vic fans, because it’s useless. "
"Having reasonable conversations with Vic on his blog is impossible. If you dare contradict him and make a valid point..."
Does it mean that if someone contradict you, you are going to do the same as Vic apparently "done" to you?
Btw, I did not "Askimet" you because I would like you to answer me those valid questions. I will show you that fans can be reasonable. The floor is yours if you want! 
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Bloggerunleashed said:
Steve,
I been reading Vic, Griz and Courts since early Dec and I am not here to say who is right or who is wrong. I know three of them have added value to the MMO site and I learned from them.
If you can recall, Vic made a post in early Dec when he started bloggerunleashed “Let’s Start This Party Right” where he claimed he will give away two blogs on 15 April 2008 which he valued at $14K.
Today is 1 June, I yet to see any post on who win the blogs and both blogs that he claimed to give away are all BANS site. Do they worth $14K, I don’t know. What do you think?
You tell me, where goes wrong?
June 1st, 2008 at 8:46 pm -
Steve McGrath said:
Yes, I do remember that post about those 2 blogs. I was even going to ask Vic about them a few months ago to see if he was working on them.
But since that first post, Vic made 152 posts, countless “how to video” which do take time(I know), got sick, was hacked on BZ/BU, got one site stolen, he is also organizing a contest for bloggers(replacement for those 2 blogs?) and had to transfer all BANS from 2.0 to 3.0 and from CJ to EPN. I’m only mentioning this because I’m sure that he was planning to do it but got sidetrack by all those thinks and his A.D.D.
. That’s not counting on helping many bloggers on Skype or email.I did not went to see them for while now. Instead of parking sites, he put BANS on it. He mentioned it a few times.
Vic could he still make a contest with them. Let’s say he start in July and stop in August(2 months). They won’t worth $14K because it’s shorter. June is for the current bigger contest( almost 90 bloggers to coach). I would not mind winning a blog that deliver some easy passive income from it(few hundreds/month) or keep them has BANS(if no time for another contest) if the BANS make him more than $1/day.
June 1st, 2008 at 10:26 pm -
Bloggerunleashed said:
Steve,
I know and understand what you are trying to say. Yes, Vic is busy and sick and I admit that he is good and help bloggers. I learned alot from him also.
But, the point is, no matter how goods you are, it still don’t cover your bad, isn’t it? Vic made a bold statement in the early days and when he can’t deliver, I think the least he should do is to explain to those who sign up with an intention to win the blog.
When he called out to JC or the other about not helping people make money, that’s because those people claimed to help. So, what’s this incident shows?
You should know why I raised this issue here instead of Vic’s blog, knowing his outspoken style, I don’t want to be called Dumb…
June 2nd, 2008 at 2:25 am -
Blah blah said:
OK Steve, you seem like a person with whom a person can have a decent conversation. Honestly, I would have expected otherwise, because most people who visit Vic’s blog will bash the hell out of you if you even think about contradicting the grand master. They get too much out of his personality I suppose. Anyway, here’s my answer to you.
About my point #13, I am not denying Affiliate Marketing as a concept, I was just pointing out his rudeness and the way in which he said thanks for making him some money. It doesn’t matter that it’s $5 or $100, it’s still the same. You don’t call a person who did you a favor a cocksucker for about 100 times.
About Askimet: In the same video in which he called me a cocksucker, he also threatened me about “askimeting my ass” (those are his words). Not that I care too much about that, but again, it shows the principles on this man when you dare contradict him. The discussion was about the keyword “free BANS template”. He said it was a buying keyword (which obviously isn’t), after which he made me a video response in which he called me a cocksucker and many more things. Just because I dared to contradict him. Again, just think about common sense and you will realize how absurd this is.
Then, I am tired of hearing the excuse “This is how he is, he calls it out”. This is how he tries to explain his rudeness and his strategy, and his blog’s visitors buy into that. However, if it were in real life, and not via Internet, would you accept such a behavior? I don’t think so. I don’t care very much about political correctness either, but there are some limits. You don’t call a person a “bitch”, just because you feel like it. You can explain whatever she does wrong in a decent way. And no, you didn’t realize it yet… but Vic’s goal is to become an A-list blogger himself, which is fine by me… but it’s against everything he’s supposed to teach.
Then, I admit I was a reader of BU, I didn’t say I wasn’t. This happened mainly because I want to learn from other people’s experiences, and see alternative ways to make money. I accepted his language just for this, and even thought at one point that he actually might be a good person. About learning new things, why shouldn’t I? I am all knowing? Of course not. Nobody is. I am open to new techniques and open to learning, and I don’t claim to be the best SEO ever (like other people do). At first, I thought Vic was this hardcore SEO guy from which I had a ton to learn, because this is indeed the first impression that he gives you. That impression is false though.
I do have a blog about SEO and Internet Marketing, but I haven’t updated it in a while. The reason behind this is because I can’t waste time trying to become an A list blogger. I work for an important Internet Marketing company and I have many projects of my own, and I prefer it this way. Trying to become an A list blogger is time consuming, it will take out all your energy. This is also why I really don’t think Vic makes all the money he claims, because if he did, he wouldn’t have time for BU and contests. By the way, have you ever wondered why all the 100 blogs that participate in the contest are on BU subdomains? Food for thought.
Griz and Court have awesome blogs, much better than BU and I really don’t understand why they partnered with Vic. My only explanation is that they also believe Vic is a hardcore SEO guy. If it weren’t for the links from Court and Grizz, he would have never made it to top 30 for “make money online”. Again, what I don’t understand is why Grizz is giving him the “make money online” sitewide link, but it’s his own personal choice, I don’t really care. I will never get into this niche.
Yes, I find SEO Elite has limited capabilities and you won’t get a proper analysis with it.
The plugin for WordPress is called phpbay pro and you can find it at http://www.phpbay.com/. It has both a free version and a paid version, but the paid version is much cheaper than BANS. It is very easy to use and you get to work with wordpress, which has advantages that I won’t go into here.
You say that Vic now mentioned that article directories are less hot, yet not so much time ago he said people should get Article Submitter and submit an article to hundreds of sites. Talk about consistency and knowledge, huh? And no, it’s not true, SOME article directories are still hot, and you can enhance that with proper submission techniques. But submitting the same article to hundreds of directories is useless.
Anyway, I spent enough time writing this post, have a good day.June 2nd, 2008 at 7:25 am -
Steve McGrath said:
Ok, I will look at it from a “contest participant” point of view. I understand that an explanation could be beneficial for those who signed up.
Last year, a blogger did a contest with $2500 in cash and got many backlinks from that. But in the end, something fishy about the winner gave the guy a very bad name. I removed my backlinks from my contest blog but most bloggers did not. Here, Vic only asked to signup to enter. He did not get backlinks from that.
Another known blogger was supposed to give a PS3 but never gave it. The winner, also known, did a number of posts about it.
You mentioned JC. What did he do in the last 6-7 months to help others. To be fair, the last month or so does not count since he is in vacation in China. For example, I will tag a post on JC because I’m interested in the content. So, far, I only tagged 2 posts in that time and one was from Court and the other about a plugin to sell private ads.
Also, last year(August), JC told that he would create a brand new blog with only $100 budget to show that what he is teaching works. What happen to that? It’s even worst because he as more readers than Vic but nobody seemed to “call him” on that. I left a few comments in appropriate post about that but he never once replied. I would had expected a few reports about the “anonymous” blog.
Some bloggers may make promises but failed to deliver. Again, if you take it from a “participant” point of view, yes, Vic failed on this particular instance.
But if you take the current and bigger contest, bloggers should make a few 1000s each months at the end of the contest. Of course, not everyone will get that. I’m including me but I’m behind because I have other tasks to do first that take more time than expected. Anyway, if you take 90(?) bloggers x $150/average for 3 months(very low estimation), it work out to $13,500. Hmmm, it’s very close to $14K in money. No, it’s not with 2 blogs but if you have entered the contest, you would learn to fish a “red fish” or a “whale”. I want to catch a whale but I need to take the time.
In either case, the main goal was to teach us how to create a money making blog. The way has change with real on hand experience with 90 bloggers. Now, Vic could create 2 blogs with those 2 domains using most but not all videos in the current contest. Contest participants will have a few more inside tips.
Is the time frame enough for them to earn $14K. I don’t know.Btw, I went to see those 2 domains this morning and to the contest post. I could not leave a comment because he had closed them back then so that people use the signup form.
June 2nd, 2008 at 7:45 am -
Blah blah said:
Hey Steve,
I think you misunderstood me. I am not a JC fan, not by a longshot. The only thing I said about JC is the way in which Vic bashes him yet when JC comments on BU all Vic can say is “kudos to you”. I distinctly remember that comment, maybe it isn’t there anymore, I don’t know. That being said, I don’t like Chow’s blog either.
About Vic’s contest, I really don’t care. What I found hilarious was one of his video posts where he said he’s gonna teach every participant in the contest how to bring 20.000 uniques/day to their websites and that the servers wouldn’t hold. Hahaha…. That one made my day.June 2nd, 2008 at 7:57 am -
Steve McGrath said:
Blah blah: I was writing my long response to “Bloggerunleashed”(not Vic).
Just a note: Vic does want to do BU for ever and become an A-Lister like you are suggesting. He mentioned it many time that he wants to stop near September. He might go a few months more and even then it maybe on a much lower posting frequency.
“free BANS template”: It was my first reaction too until you start thinking out of the box. The person already bought BANS thus may want to buy other things related to BANS like premium templates. Plus, I’m cheap like most people and will try to get it for free first but pay if I don’t have any choices or it offer me a greater value
“I am tired of hearing the excuse “This is how he is, he calls it out”.
He did mentioned that in real life, he is more discipline/civilize and curse less. Vic must have a switch on/off for that for BU persona. Good , you have a blog but I don’t expect you to become a A-list blogger. Many readers want different point of view. Look, I don’t post every day.
Subdomain for the contest: Yes, I realize that it create contents for Vic. But it is also easier to manage than having the need to access many individual domains too. Also, who would had wanted to pay for a real domain to participate in? He may or may not delete them after the contest. He may also offer bloggers to do redirect 301 to a real domain names(export) to lessen the load on his server so that those that make it big can’t continue on their way.
SEO Elite: You did not answer my questions. What do you use?
I heard of phpBay before but did not remember the free version. Vic did say that it was more flexible and cost less. But the site does not mentioned if it comes with a life time of upgrades like BANS do. The free version is also limited and I understand that. If a person would do 1 WP blog with it, I guest it would be okay. But if you multiply that by 100 sites, then it could be another matter. Each has it’s plus and minus. But you don’t have to delete spam from a BANS site.
Something important happened recently for directories(article) and .info: Google made a change in the way it might calculate them. Maybe the “less hot” was about that. Also, Vic mentioned they accept less anchor keywords in the article body too.
I know that your reply was long but I will still like an answer about SEO Elite.
June 2nd, 2008 at 8:58 am -
Blah blah said:
I will answer your SEO Elite question with another question. Vic once said that Courtney had told him that he had never used SEO Elite. Yet Courtney is in top 5 for “Internet Marketing”. Now, how does that go with the claim that you are dead without SEO Elite?
I realize that you are trying to defend him, but I am sorry to say that your answers have not satisfied me. I don’t care that he SAYS he’s more disciplined in real life. He can SAY whatever he wants. I can SAY that I am worth 100 million $$. The fact is that the face he is displaying is that of a man of low quality, and that’s all that matters. Now, when 2 people say I am drunk, I go home to sleep. In his case, it’s not two. Let’s think about some persons who really don’t like him that much.
John Chow – http://www.johnchow.com/
John Cow – http://www.johncow.com/
Josh Spaulding – http://ez-onlinemoney.com/blog/
Bryan Clark – http://siteflipu.com/
Yaro Starak – http://www.entrepreneurs-journey.com/
Garry Conn – http://www.garryconn.com/
Caroline M – http://carolinemiddlebrook.com/
I think the list could go on and on. Now, don’t tell me that they don’t like him because they are all scammers. Vic does exactly the same thing that they do, by applying a different strategy. And that strategy is to call everyone else a scam in order to bring traffic. That’s all there is to it. I would love to see some conversation going here though, and see the points of view of other people also.June 2nd, 2008 at 9:18 am -
Blah blah said:
Hey Steve, please approve my previous comment because I think it got stuck in the moderation queue for having a few links in it. I was trying to get more people to join the conversation. Thanks.
June 2nd, 2008 at 11:55 am -
Steve McGrath said:
Blah blah: I just saw your comment and allowed the comment. I had my BloggingZoom in moderation too
I don’t think those bloggers would want to join the conversation. You may want to invite them and they should consider my blog has a neutral ground. But nothing is stopping Vic to join the conversation also.SeoElite is a tool that Vic recommend if/when people have the money. For now, the way I’m using it is in relation with BANS. Once, I found a good keyword, I look how often my competition is using that specific keywords in it’s anchored backlinks. I don’t have to do it by hand thus I’m saving time. But what do you use? You never answered my question so far.
Court is giving away SEO modified WordPress themes thus getting free backlinks that way.
I don’t personally agree with that “particular” method of calling a person names. I’m sure that if Vic would “cleanup is language”, he would be even more popular.
But the troubles is that when Vic call someone a “out”, that person don’t want to respond to that claimed. I can understand that the person would be reticent to go on BU and leave a comment. The same goes with Vic when he is invited to do same on that person’s blog.
You have already noted that I’m reasonable guy and again, I would not mind to be the “neutral ground” for them to defend each other points/positions. That would be a great debate for me and other to read.
Josh Spaulding, John Cow: I might have missed the “official” post/video about them on BU.
June 2nd, 2008 at 1:29 pm -
Blah blah said:
I am using IBP. It is a little bit steep in price, I know. I use it in correlation with SEO Quake and manual research. You see, SEO Elite will only analyze a maximum of 1000 links. What do you do when a competing website has 20k links? It also has its bugs, which are can’t exactly be neglected.
Look at Vic’s tutorial about using SEO Elite (I think that was the one). Look at how many links SEO Elite says that specific website has (I think it was http://www.zephyrpaintball.com/). Now do a link search on Yahoo and you will see the truth. I don’t know if that specific website is working the anchors or not, but trust me… you won’t find a decent answer from SEO Elite, you will have to do a manual research yourself. My advice is to try to get as many as the competition’s backlinks as possible and then some.
Don’t let me start talking about Keyword Elite also. Last time I checked, it was based on Overture numbers, which are shit. Any Internet Marketer with enough experience knows that, and knows the difference between Overture, Wordtracker, Google suggestion and Keyword Discovery. If you base your keyword research on Keyword Elite, you will really not get very far.
As a final note, I hope that at the end of the contest all participants will have a traffic of 20k uniques/day and Vic has a post in which he proves just that… Hahahahaha….
Best regards.June 2nd, 2008 at 3:28 pm -
Steve McGrath said:
Blah blah: You can’t compare both products because it’s not in the same price range. Plus with IBP(ibusinesspromoter), you must pay annual fees. So, I find the argument weak on that point. If both would be the same price/free upgrades or IBP a cheaper alternative, I would had agreed with you. As for bugs, tell me a software that don’t have them. The word “version” exist for that.
But the way I understand Vic’s method with BANS, I would not compete with a competitor that had too many backlinks in the first place. I would use another less used keyword.
Maybe you had an old version of Keyword Elite, but I see options for FreeKeywords WT(Overture?), Wordtracker(grayed out), KeywordDiscovery(grayed out). I don’t have account with them(last 2).
I don’t want 20K uniques/day unless they are targeted and click or buy stuff for my blog
June 2nd, 2008 at 3:51 pm -
Bloggerunleashed said:
Steve,
When you say Vic don’t get backlinks, check out again. How many times he said reader to vote for him in youtube and linkback to his site.
Anyway, you still don’t get my point. The point is Credibility. If you promise something and can’t delivered, sitting on it won’t help.
Imagine if I promise you 14K when you sign up with me, I can’t delivered. Then, I said, never mind, you link to me, I organized another contest. That’s is totally different thing. Isn’t it.
And btw, I just saw your comment on Vic’s blog. He ridiculous about your 52 reader against 2K reader and talking about weight. Now, what is his 2K reader compared to other who have >10K reader. If having more reader meant more weight, then Vic is clearly out of the game.
Anyway, good luck to you on his new contest. End of the day, I am not sure if he is going to organized another contest when he can’t delivered the goods.
Clearly getting 20K hits is too bold a statement just like the 14K blogs.
June 2nd, 2008 at 8:33 pm -
Steve McGrath said:
Bloggerunleashed: Yes, I understood your point view but I might not explained my self correctly. I know it ‘s a pain for him making the second contest that he might missed making the first one.
It would had be easier for him to do. You could remained him of it his blog now.Is my RSS low? Yes and that’s why I made a “note” about it. But it would be more funny if people would subscribe to my feed and I would get 6000 or even more in just a few days. I could tease him about it
Let’s see:
Vic: 7 months = 2750
Me: 16 months = 6285
That’s the amount I would need to be at the same level as Vic for the same time frame.As for the contest, thanks. I’m sure he will deliverer the goods.
Like I mentioned above, I don’t want 20K uniques/day unless they are targeted and click or buy stuff from my blog Btw, I change my RSS feed “note” to make it more “interesting”. Who knows, people might subscribe just so I can tease Vic and read my post too(more important).
June 2nd, 2008 at 9:24 pm -
Rhys said:
I too have noticed it is possible to have dialogs with Vic in a different venue and not get sworn at all the time. I have therefore suspected that the ‘F-ing’ and ‘B-ing’ at BU is largely a quite cynical put-on, simply to gather in those that think it is ‘dashing’ to use bad language in a public context. I’ve even noticed a few simple souls adopting some of that technique themselves.
It will be very nice when Vic posts the follow-up facts to substantiate the claims made. Won’t it?? His real agenda will be revealed over time.
June 3rd, 2008 at 1:20 am -
Blah blah said:
Steve, I just saw your dialogues on BU and I must say it’s the same thing that’s been going on over and over. Now, my impression is that you are trying to defend him at any cost, that’s fine by me. This is exactly the brainwashing effect I was talking about earlier.
However, I remembered something else. My point #14: How the hell can you accuse someone of gaining popularity by gaming the Digg system (like supposedly JC did) when you are an alleged former black hat? How the hell can you do that?
Now, people with whom I’ve made friends at BU and don’t visit the website anymore all have the same characteristics: they are very good at SEO and they are nice guys. Now, I am not talking about myself, but they are really nice and competent guys. Why did THEY decide not to visit BU anymore? Maybe because they are competent and could smell the shit?
Then, about him saying that he doesn’t want to be politically correct and a scammer, again, this is BS. One would conclude that everyone who is politically correct and has a blog, is a scammer. My piece of advice to you is to check out these very politically correct guys who have way better SEO and Marketing blogs than him and read them. You will see a difference in class and knowledge.
sethgodin dot com – a Marketing legend
seobook dot com – Aaron Wall is an SEO legend, a guy from whom you REALLY have a lot to learn.
45n5 dot com
Not to mention Grizz and Court, who have good blogs also.
When you have read especially the first 2 blogs, you will start to realize the BS that Vic is swimming in.June 3rd, 2008 at 3:28 am -
Blah blah said:
Let’s make a short exercise of imagination. Vic and Court are best buddies, but let’s suppose they weren’t. Court likes SEO Quake and doesn’t use SEO elite (this one is a fact, at least that’s what Vic once said). Court stumbles upon Vic’s tutorial on SEO Elite and comments on the post saying: “I use SEO Quake, it’s free, and I sincerely recommend it to everyone”. What would a very probable reaction from Vic’s part be?
a) LMAO you dumbfuck SEO Quake is a toy it doesn’t compare to SEO Elite you fucking noob SEO Elite is the best and don’t come here misleading the visitors of my website you dumbfuck.
b) Listen, you cocksucker…. (same as above or along those lines).
So, can you see how thin is the line between normality and insanity with this guy?
This is also why his visitors don’t really dare to contradict him very much, because they know deep down that the guy is mentally unstable and has a loose screw.
I am willing to stop accusing him and not post him on scam dot com or any other places, if he makes a video that shows his eBay account. He once said that the majority of his income is made by BANS, so at a monthly income of 20k (as he said), he should make at least 10k/month from eBay. You should ask him this yourself, as a proof of the fact that he’s competent. I, for one, don’t believe that this guy is making more than 3k/month.June 3rd, 2008 at 8:00 am -
Steve McGrath said:
Blah blah: Why are you still reading BU if you claimed not to read him anymore? Just teasing you.
You have notice that I provoked more reactions than I expected by making my statement.
Point #14: Yes, he is a former Black hat and that’s no secret but I don’t understand your question. JC manipulated Digg and they kick him out. JC manipulated Google and they kick him at the bottom. Vic gained is popularity from BZ/Court and the strategy(foul mouth) he used to launch his blog. It worked well for him.
Mariam did had a good point: You have the “Evil”, “Teacher”, “Intellectual” … and now the “Foul mouth”. Do I still agree with the language? No but I will still read him like I read other bloggers like Court(real PC), Grizz and others. It is he’s blog and the persona he will show to people on BU.
Vic did say that SEOQuake was good if not tools were available to a person because of the lack of money.
For Vic showing his BANS result, I can’t answer for him. But replied with my own bans result.
I’m sure you saw the crack he made about my low RSS feed count.
So, let’s do a test: Tell everyone(like your friends) that don’t like Vic to subscribe to my feed. I’m sure that I would not get 6285 in a few days because most don’t believe is he a scammer.June 3rd, 2008 at 10:46 am -
Blah blah said:
Haha, nice fake pic. I know that pics are easy to fake, that’s why I said video. In the case of a video, it is much easier to spot a fake. I definitely can find one or two persons from my instant messenger list that can professionally spot a fake.
Look Steve, this has been really entertaining, but I really can’t spend so much time debating this issue anymore. It’s just the two of us, and obviously we will never see eye to eye on this one. After all, I have my money to make. I have my hands full as it is and I don’t need pointless debates about dubious characters that lack basic education. I have taken this too far as it is, but hey… I am only human, and I gave into the temptation. If you want to discuss general Internet Marketing stuff, money making techniques and talk with a person that is in the same field as you, I will be glad to talk to you on instant messenger once in a while. I really like meeting new people in the field with whom you can have a decent conversation. If you would like that, just drop a line here on your blog and I will shoot you an email with my IM address. Goodbye, and this subject is closed for me thank you.June 3rd, 2008 at 12:01 pm -
Steve McGrath said:
I knew you would find it funny. I did not notice the “video” part. :p
I was about to tell you the same thing about this discussion. We both took too much time on this.
That does not mean I would not answer anyone else that want to leave a comment here.
Btw, I do have your email(if it’s a real one from the comment). I’m not very a IM kind of guy. So, you can use my contact form so that I can visit your blog if you want.
Now, I must go make some money too.
June 3rd, 2008 at 1:43 pm -
DianeN said:
Bottom line guys, nobody that’s following Vic’s teachings is making any kind of real money and people have been following along for months. Sure newbies can learn a thing or two from him but they’re never going to make any real money with his methods. I don’t really know why I even posted this as it seems pointless with the amount of cheer leading going on but i would be willing to bet if I check back here by contest end there still won’t be anybody making any real money with Vic’s methods and he will have changed out all the contestant affiliate links to his own. Time will tell.
June 23rd, 2008 at 10:47 pm -
Steve McGrath said:
Hi DianaN,
Vic’s BANS+.info is taking a lot of flack lately and that’s why people write that is “teaching” does not work. Well Google do what Google wants and nobody can guaranteed anything. It’s just bad timing. He also mentioned to not be 100% Bans too by being diversify(Niche sites). Of course, it’s the same with investing. For now, .info are a wait and see or they could be reused for other things to get them indexed. I’m mostly buying pre-owned using his BANS method.
Now, for the last month or so, I was working on my own BANS software tool(AuctionSiteWriter) so I did not take the time to build new links to my own BANS sites. But you know what? I still made money doing nothing with the few of them I had setup. I even made money on a few .info but it was mostly with pre-owned.
Also, I did not do much about the contest. He gave tips but I did not act on them(again because of ASW). Will everyone get massive traffic from their blog? I don’t know but it also depends if they work it or not.
Yes, many will failed but also many failed trying to be the next A-list blogger or following their methods too.
Me, I’m doing my “thing” since I got my own software and other sites(not niche). So, I don’t follow 100% Vic’s method because that is my choice.
June 24th, 2008 at 11:04 am
Is Vic Franqui From Bloggerunleashed.com A Scammer? Part 2…
In “Is Vic Franqui From Bloggerunleashed.com A Scammer?”, I replied to a comment left by someone on John Cow. In part 2, that person replied to me. But while replying, my comment was getting longer than I expected because he raised a 13th point and m…
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